{"id":1210,"date":"2009-02-05T07:49:59","date_gmt":"2009-02-05T03:49:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/2009\/02\/05\/re-on-the-subject-of-job-postings-34\/"},"modified":"2009-02-05T07:49:59","modified_gmt":"2009-02-05T03:49:59","slug":"re-on-the-subject-of-job-postings-34","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/2009\/02\/05\/re-on-the-subject-of-job-postings-34\/","title":{"rendered":"Re: On the subject of job postings&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I saw this thread and decided to share my brief note concerning collaboration to conquer (or at least temporarily faze) the sinister economy.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m interested in what Peng suggested, be it for collaborative job hunting, freelance work delegation, or initiatives like Bob&#8217;s suggestion to create a video game. I can do illustration, technical and creative writing, digital imaging, graphic design, game design and animation\/video production and editing. I&#8217;m not an expert at any of those, but I can do them all pretty well. Some 3D, but I&#8217;m not too confident with those skills in a professional capacity. I&#8217;ve had the same problem concerning marketable skills that was touched upon earlier in this thread. I&#8217;m pretty good or decent at a whole lot of shit, but I&#8217;m not great or specialized in anything, which in a specialized market means I&#8217;m kinda hosed. Hence why I was interested in replying to this thread :)<\/p>\n<p>-Jim<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8211; Original Message &#8212;&#8211;<br \/>\nFrom: Peng Zhao<br \/>\nDate: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:18 pm<br \/>\nSubject: Re: On the subject of job postings&#8230;<br \/>\nTo: ITP Students <\/p>\n<p>&gt; I&#8217;m curious if anyone interested in forming a freelance<br \/>\n&gt; partnership\/group. I<br \/>\n&gt; don&#8217;t see it as a ideal work or career, but it def helps you out to get<br \/>\n&gt; through the down economy and when you are on the way to an ideal job.<br \/>\n&gt; I&#8217;m a<br \/>\n&gt; programmer so I can contribute my programming skills(actionscript, php,<br \/>\n&gt; ajax, js, html, css&#8230;etc.) and I have a handful connections of excellent<br \/>\n&gt; programmers who can develop any scale of<br \/>\n&gt; applications\/websites\/projects from<br \/>\n&gt; personal use to exterprise level. And I think with the diversity of ITP<br \/>\n&gt; talents, we can take on almost any possible project if want to.<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; Peng<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Scott Corrigan wrote:<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; Lori! You reminded me of something my father said when I was<br \/>\n&gt; floundering in<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; undergrad.<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; He said, &#8220;It doesn&#8217;t really matter what you learn in school. A<br \/>\n&gt; company is<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; going to teach you what they want you to know anyway. Your job is to<br \/>\n&gt; prove<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; that you can learn new things easily.&#8221;  Granted tat was undergrad, but<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; that&#8217;s what it&#8217;s like for us out here. ITP is like another (splendid)<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; undergraduate degree. All that fascinating trivia and those problem-solving<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; shortcuts you&#8217;re learning with have their day.<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; s c o t t   c o r r i g a n<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; www.scottcorrigan.com  &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; *From:* Lori A Napoleon<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; *To:* ITP Students<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; *Sent:* Tuesday, February 3, 2009 2:54:31 PM<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; *Subject:* Re: On the subject of job postings&#8230;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; Well, bear with me as I shed some optimism because I went thru this<br \/>\n&gt; already<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; when leaving undergrad with a painting degree &#8211; how marketable is that?!<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; Granted it took about 6 months of having minimal-paying and<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; not-very-satisfying jobs (retail at the chicago architectural foundation<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; gift shop; sales and database-management at a gallery selling incredible<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; vintage french lithographs but under a horrible tyrant boss)&#8230;<br \/>\n&gt; finally I<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; talked my way into being a roving recruiter\/admissions counselor at<br \/>\n&gt; an art<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; school and loved this job incredibly.  At face value, its a marketing<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; position, which I&#8217;ve never been trained at and thus could never have<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; anticipated for myself&#8230; but, being able to go to high schools all<br \/>\n&gt; over the<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; city I lived in and give talks to students was this incredible<br \/>\n&gt; balance of<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; having something that paid the bills (and benefits!  ah,<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; academia),discussing subjects that interested me to students that I<br \/>\n&gt; learned<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; so much from myself, was incredibly rewarding, and seperate en<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; ough from my own work that i didn&#8217;t come home creatively drained, so<br \/>\n&gt; I<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; could continue to do my own projects.  I don&#8217;t think that is the only<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; instance such a balance can occur and that i was just lucky, it just<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; requires some searching.  I have a friend whose background is in the<br \/>\n&gt; arts,<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; who works at a physics lab with some of the most brilliant minds on<br \/>\n&gt; the<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; planet &#8211; using her skills as a communicator (skills WE have as<br \/>\n&gt; artists and<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; interactive teleCOMMUNICATIONs majors we are) to organize science<br \/>\n&gt; kits and<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; workshops for students and the general public &#8211; and she loves going<br \/>\n&gt; to work<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; every day.  I think besides thinking about skills such as<br \/>\n&gt; programming, etc.,<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; there is something else that we have to offer the world which is extremely<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; valuable &#8212; communication, enlightenment, ability to navigate between<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; disciplines, even just the sense of playfulness at ITP is something<br \/>\n&gt; I feel<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; is extremely beneficial for us to have had experience with, if we<br \/>\n&gt; just talk<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; it up in whatever applications an<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; d interviews that await us.  Maybe I sound like I&#8217;m that dreaming-artist<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; and that I&#8217;m not being realistic, but I really don&#8217;t think so (I<br \/>\n&gt; could go on<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; with other examples but I&#8217;ll spare it for brevity).<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &#8212;&#8211; Original Message &#8212;&#8211;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; From: OpusRAW@aol.com<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 1:36 pm<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: On the subject of job postings&#8230;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; To: ITP Students<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; I hear you. I never really accrued any truly marketable skills at<br \/>\n&gt; ITP.<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; I<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; can&#8217;t say that it was a complete waste of time, since I did learn<br \/>\n&gt; the<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; basics of<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; Flash and ActionScript to get my own personal game projects off the<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; ground.<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; But  I&#8217;m not entirely sure it was worth the disastrous financial<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; situation I&#8217;m<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; in  right now&#8211; I went to a state school for undergrad, so after<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; getting my BA<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; I was  in a nice position of being completely debt free. I took on<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; lots of<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; loans to go  to NYU, however, largely because I thought it would<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; improve my<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; job-opportunities. Now, I find I&#8217;m underqualified for all the game<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; design jobs I<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; want (because I haven&#8217;t worked in the private sector) and that I&#8217;m<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; overqualified  for any of the part-time temp jobs I might need<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; (because nobody trusts<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; somebody  with an MA to stick around any longer than it takes to find<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; a real<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; job.)<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; **************Stay up to date on the latest news &#8211; from sports scores<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; to<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; stocks and so much more. (http:\/\/aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000022)<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &#8212;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; leave-9994241-6058284.b228329ecf8599826fda30f6df233dba@lists.nyu.edu<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &#8212;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; leave-9994517-3318839.ea992d2e00d927155291e1a8185b4976@lists.nyu.edu<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &#8212;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I saw this thread and decided to share my brief note concerning collaboration to conquer (or at least temporarily faze) the sinister economy. I&#8217;m interested&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1210","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-job","category-listserv","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1210","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1210"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1210\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1210"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1210"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1210"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}