{"id":63,"date":"2008-04-02T05:00:51","date_gmt":"2008-04-02T01:00:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/2008\/04\/02\/re-bay-area-summer-internship-opportunity-5\/"},"modified":"2008-04-02T05:00:51","modified_gmt":"2008-04-02T01:00:51","slug":"re-bay-area-summer-internship-opportunity-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/2008\/04\/02\/re-bay-area-summer-internship-opportunity-5\/","title":{"rendered":"Re: bay area summer internship opportunity"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Dear Phoebe,<\/p>\n<p>here&#8217;s the thing. when the godin thread came about, I asked one of the<br \/>\nsecond years to introduce me to you, assuming you were one of the<br \/>\nsecond years I had never met. Remember, it&#8217;s over 200 people roaming<br \/>\non the floor. Imagine my surprise when one of them said &#8220;phoebe? I<br \/>\nthought she was a 1st year.&#8221; after a couple of short google searches i<br \/>\nfound 2 things: that you graduated many years ago and that you post<br \/>\nvery often to the student list without ever explaining who you are.<\/p>\n<p>I dont&#8217; think t&#8217;s unheard of for alumni to post to the student list.<br \/>\nIn fact a few do here and there and it&#8217;s assumed that a greater many<br \/>\nkinda read the list to see what the vibe is on the floor, or  to find<br \/>\nsome good  memes.  But when they do post, they usually make it clear<br \/>\nthat they are alumni and what the reason is they&#8217;re posting. finally,<br \/>\nEvery time I remember  seeing a post from an alumni  it&#8217;s been by<br \/>\nsomeone who graduated the previous year.<\/p>\n<p>I thought being a student of Godin you would realize that might have<br \/>\nlost some credibility with us during that marathon thread. That any<br \/>\ngoodwill the &#8220;phoebe brand&#8221; on the list has been squandered by<br \/>\nobfuscation and a lack of sensitivity to the current dominant ITP<br \/>\nculture.<\/p>\n<p>I do appreciate the job offers you post. I really do. but don&#8217;t you<br \/>\nthink it&#8217;s more appropriate to send them to Midori like every other<br \/>\nalumni does? What makes you think you&#8217;re exempt from that process?<br \/>\nEspecially when it was pointed out last time that we can kick you off<br \/>\nthe list at any time through a bug in the system?<\/p>\n<p>(which no one did, because we&#8217;re Just That Classy &#8482;).<\/p>\n<p>best,<\/p>\n<p>John<\/p>\n<p>The opinions expressed in this message and\/or any attachments are<br \/>\nthose of the author and not necessarily those of ITP, the student<br \/>\nlist, and my mom.<\/p>\n<p>On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Heather Rasley  wrote:<br \/>\n&gt;  Wait a minute, wait a minute. Now we&#8217;ve gone from paying to work to paying<br \/>\n&gt; for the chance to work? And as for the Jobs job&#8230; you really couldn&#8217;t be<br \/>\n&gt; more vague. I&#8217;m sorry Phoebe, but these &#8220;opportunities&#8221; you&#8217;re presenting us<br \/>\n&gt; with really aren&#8217;t appealing.<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; -H<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 7:04 PM, phoebe.itp<br \/>\n&gt; wrote:<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; Look I know what you thought of the Seth Godin intership, but I think do<br \/>\n&gt; think this could be an incredible opportunity.  And no, you don&#8217;t have to<br \/>\n&gt; pay to apply for the Jobs position. If you don&#8217;t believe it, don&#8217;t send me<br \/>\n&gt; your info.  I&#8217;m sure you can find something fulfilling to do this summer<br \/>\n&gt; regardless.  In fact, I have been contracting for Sony Music for the last<br \/>\n&gt; couple of weeks and I heard that Bruce Springsteen wants to start a blog<br \/>\n&gt; about electronic music.  They&#8217;re looking for a short-term freelance web<br \/>\n&gt; designer with some technical skills (mostly setting up WordPress) to work<br \/>\n&gt; directly with him.  Unfortunately, for this position you do have to pay a<br \/>\n&gt; small fee to interview for the position, but I think that&#8217;s fair. (Seth has<br \/>\n&gt; been consulting with them as well and turned them onto this tactic.)  E-mail<br \/>\n&gt; me and I can put you in touch with my contact there.<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; -p<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 5:58 PM, C. Anderson Miller<br \/>\n&gt;  wrote:<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; What I&#8217;m curious about is how much it costs.  If Seth Godin internships<br \/>\n&gt; were fetching $1000, I&#8217;ll bet Steve Jobs could get at least $5k from<br \/>\n&gt; interns.<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Michael Dory<br \/>\n&gt; wrote:<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sea horsies suck!!!<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Apr 1, 2008, at 4:09 PM, John Dimatos wrote:<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &#8220;on *certain* marine life.  &#8221;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; how specieist. no one ever cares about the sea horsies.<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Mike Rosenthal<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; wrote:<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; what an auspicious date on which to hear of such a unique, apple<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; related opportunity!<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:50 PM, phoebe.itp<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  wrote:<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; My friend is one of Steve Jobs&#8217; assistants, and she told me that<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; he will be<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; hiring two people to work on a personal project over the summer.<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; She<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; couldn&#8217;t give me details, but said that it involves a mobile<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; application and<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; eco-research on certain marine life.  He will not take people who<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; already<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; work within Apple, and he only takes resumes from references by<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; people who<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; work for him.  She doesn&#8217;t know anybody, but she asked me if I<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; do.  If<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; you&#8217;re interested, email me and I&#8217;ll let you know how to get in<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; touch with<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; her.<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; -p<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &#8212;<br \/>\n&gt; mike@thetanknyc.org<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; leave-9251885-3377137.87052768dc97cb6feaaf1693b3451da3@lists.nyu.edu<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &#8212;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Mike Rosenthal<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Managing Director<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; The Tank<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; 212-563-6269<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; http:\/\/www.thetanknyc.org<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &#8212;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; leave-9251988-3306199.e8d7b52634e908a50cd9cd3ae8848097@lists.nyu.edu<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &#8212;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ________________________<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; John Dimatos, c\/o Epimetheus<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ITP MPS NYU<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ph. 917.650.5683<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &#8212;<br \/>\n&gt; itp@doryexmachina.com<br \/>\n&gt; leave-9252214-2238177.efd0ed1892fd7f5787e75f6c13baaccb@lists.nyu.edu<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &#8212;<br \/>\n&gt; candersonmiller@gmail.com<br \/>\n&gt; leave-9252338-3449439.16ee727bbbdae72d924c4612945b7dcd@lists.nyu.edu<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt; &#8212;<br \/>\n&gt; phoebe.itp.list@gmail.com<br \/>\n&gt; leave-9252603-3303836.8b296b45ae2c0c4d3c48004106460b64@lists.nyu.edu<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &gt; &#8212;<br \/>\n&gt; leave-9252701-3321379.83ca66ce0b82ee3750cba15152522b3a@lists.nyu.edu<br \/>\n&gt; &gt;<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &#8212;<br \/>\n&gt; leave-9252788-3306199.e8d7b52634e908a50cd9cd3ae8848097@lists.nyu.edu<br \/>\n&gt;<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<br \/>\n________________________<br \/>\nJohn Dimatos, c\/o Epimetheus<br \/>\nITP MPS NYU<br \/>\nph. 917.650.5683<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dear Phoebe, here&#8217;s the thing. when the godin thread came about, I asked one of the second years to introduce me to you, assuming you&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7,8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-63","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-intern","category-listserv","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/63","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=63"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/63\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=63"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=63"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=63"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}