{"id":64,"date":"2008-04-02T07:07:28","date_gmt":"2008-04-02T03:07:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/2008\/04\/02\/re-bay-area-summer-internship-opportunity-6\/"},"modified":"2008-04-02T07:07:28","modified_gmt":"2008-04-02T03:07:28","slug":"re-bay-area-summer-internship-opportunity-6","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/2008\/04\/02\/re-bay-area-summer-internship-opportunity-6\/","title":{"rendered":"Re: bay area summer internship opportunity"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>well-played!<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>i was ac=<br \/>\ntually just about to post something to this thread, i admit<\/div>\n<div><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>**<\/div>\n<div>here are some highlights:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I have been really close to jumping in and telling people to ton=<br \/>\ne it down etc but I must say<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I have wondered about your t=<br \/>\nactic about offering jobs to people when they insult you (or speak strongly =<br \/>\ntowards you) is a bit strange. &nbsp;while strange enough to make me think i=<br \/>\nt is zen-like, it makes me think that someone will punch me in the face when=<br \/>\n i mention your name at the job interview.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I&nbsp;t=<br \/>\nhink it is also strange that you don&#8217;t say that you believe in this philosop=<br \/>\nhy, but rather that Seth does. &nbsp;I don&#8217;t know Seth but I must say that I=<br \/>\n recoil also when I think about people paying for interviews and for interns=<br \/>\nhips. &nbsp;when I interview with a company, for me it is just as much an in=<br \/>\nterview with the company to see if they deserve me working there. &nbsp;yes,=<br \/>\n i am that special. &nbsp;to pay for it implies an unequal relationship betw=<br \/>\neen the applicant and the institution offering that job. &nbsp;(i would rath=<br \/>\ner be poor and struggling than feel like i am getting f*cked\/ditching my int=<br \/>\negrity even before I start the job). &nbsp;i think putting a high price tag =<br \/>\non something to try and equate value with it is a misguided principle. &amp;nbsp=<br \/>\n;it starts to either smell of bad art or everything that i think is wrong wi=<br \/>\nth marketing (and i don&#8217;t hate all marketing).&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>where it sounded like a real thing before, it is now sounding like a&amp;=<br \/>\nnbsp;weird&nbsp;april fools joke to me too now . &nbsp;we have established t=<br \/>\nhat there is a difference opinion regarding this seth tactic between you and=<br \/>\n a lot of people on this list. &nbsp;i would say it is probably best that yo=<br \/>\nu don&#8217;t mention this Seth tactic of &#8220;increasing productivity in hiring&#8221; agai=<br \/>\nn. &nbsp;telling about jobs, i would say is a good thing (both parties benef=<br \/>\nit, hopefully). &nbsp;bringing up this paying for jobs, not so good&#8230;<\/div>\n<p>=<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>On =<br \/>\nApr 1, 2008, at 10:52 PM, phoebe.itp wrote:<br \/> John, I&#8217;m sorry you feel that way.&amp;=<br \/>\nnbsp; I actually wrote some thoughts about still being on the student list a=<br \/>\n while back. 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