{"id":897,"date":"2008-12-22T05:04:25","date_gmt":"2008-12-22T01:04:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/2008\/12\/22\/re-lost-my-position-21\/"},"modified":"2008-12-22T05:04:25","modified_gmt":"2008-12-22T01:04:25","slug":"re-lost-my-position-21","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/2008\/12\/22\/re-lost-my-position-21\/","title":{"rendered":"Re: Lost my Position!"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>Perhaps another good way to determi=<br \/>\nne signal\/noise ratio is to watch how many posts are contained in a thread..=<br \/>\n.the longer the thread, the more likely a good discussion? &nbsp;Of course, =<br \/>\nsome threads would route around this test like birthday threads, TNO threads=<br \/>\n, or the &#8220;It&#8217;s 4am Who&#8217;s Up?&#8221; threads. &nbsp;But I think overall it may work=<br \/>\n in conjunction with some other inputs to help &#8220;grade&#8221; a poster. &nbsp;Maybe=<br \/>\n another dimension could be the frequency in which a poster contributes to t=<br \/>\nhreads considered &#8220;high signal&#8221;? &nbsp;Then again, Tymm&#8217;s recent meteoric ri=<br \/>\nse as &#8220;most prolific poster&#8221; would actually counter this assumption because =<br \/>\nso many of his posts are amazingly useful, while many others are as trashy a=<br \/>\ns his mom. &nbsp;OH!!!<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Speaking of long threads, I =<br \/>\nnever thought this one would go so long! &nbsp;I loves it.<\/div>\n<div>\n<div> <span><\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>Corey Menscher<\/div>\n<div>corey.menscher@nyu.edu<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>http:\/\/www.crackblur.com<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>=\n<\/div>\n<p><\/span> <\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div>\n<div>On=<br \/>\n Dec 21, 2008, at 7:50 PM, Steven Lehrburger wrote:<\/div>\n<p>(haha)<\/p>\n<p>one crude metri=<br \/>\nc for determining signal-to-noise ratio might be how many words there were i=<br \/>\nn response to a given email&#8230; so that would penalize people who killed thre=<br \/>\nads and answered questions, and reward people who asked lots of questions an=<br \/>\nd started flame wars. maybe you could look for ?marks and flag those as ques=<br \/>\ntions to make things a little more nuanced. but then that leaves us (or, at =<br \/>\nleast, those who care) jumping through semantic hoops to ask as many questio=<br \/>\nns as possible without the appropriate punctuation. does that make any sense=<\/p>\n<p>alternatively, if words-in-response wasn&#8217;t considered a good goal, =<br \/>\nyou could invert it to reward the first group (who killed threads and answer=<br \/>\ned questions) and penalize the second group (who asked lots of questions and=<br \/>\n started flame wars). it of course depends on what sort of environment the P=<br \/>\nresident of the List wanted to create.<\/p>\n<p>On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Jorge Just <span>&lt;jorgejust@nyu.edu&gt; wrote:<br \/> D=<br \/>\nimatos, you&#8217;re an idiot.<\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p>On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 5:28 PM, john dimatos <span>&lt;dimatos=<br \/>\nj@gmail.com&gt;<\/span> wrote: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<div>What I also want is the ability to have individual nois=<br \/>\ne to signal ratios for each poster, and an overall list score as well. Howev=<br \/>\ner that would requir e some form of digg like system and since I can&#8217;t whip =<br \/>\nout the API\/XML fu that @lehrblogger <br \/> Did,  georgio justice (that&#8217;s his =<br \/>\nfetish scene nickname ) will deny me the genius mantle. <\/div>\n<div><\/p>\n<div>Dammit!<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Jsd <br \/>Sent from my medulla omblonga=<br \/>\nta<\/div>\n<div>On Dec 21, 2008, at 1:37 PM, &#8220;Jorge Just&#8221; &lt;jorgejust@=<br \/>\nnyu.edu&gt; wrote:<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>=<br \/>\nLehrburger, you&#8217;re a genius.<\/p>\n<div>On Sun, Dec 2=<br \/>\n1, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Steven Lehrburger <span>&lt;lehrbu=<br \/>\nrger@gmail.com&gt;<\/span> wrote:<br \/>  what we really need for this is word counts per person. =<br \/>\n i dont think google groups have an API, but if you can get the posts as an =<br \/>\nXML feed it would be easy to write something to tally it..?<\/p>\n<p>(in case =<br \/>\nanyone needed a 4-in-4 project)<\/p>\n<div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span>On 12\/21\/08, <b>Ruthie Doyle<\/b> &lt;Ruthie.Doyle@nyu.edu&gt; wrote:<\/span><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div> ;  ( sorry. bad read-through&#8230;cracked out e=<br \/>\nnd-of-semester-lag&#8230;just a typo&#8230;<\/p>\n<div>\n<div>On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 4:28 AM, John Dimatos <span>&lt;=<br \/>\ndimatosj@gmail.com&gt;<\/span> wrote:<br \/> <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span>DIAMTOS? that&#8217;s a firs=<br \/>\nt.<\/p>\n<p> I&#8217;ve heard diamatos diamato Dimato DiMato D&#8217;amato and damatio bu=<br \/>\nt never DIAMTOS.<\/p>\n<p> there should be a social genius with last names fo=<br \/>\nr people like you. <\/p>\n<div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<p> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 a=<br \/>\nt 3:54 AM, Jelani John &lt;jelanijohn@hotmail.com&gt; wrote:<br \/> =<br \/>\n&gt; Towards the end of the semester I started wondering who this Ruthie chick &gt; was. I had to get someone to point her out.<br \/> &gt; From: Ruthie Doyle &gt; Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 3:22 AM<br \/> &gt; To: ITP Students<br \/> &gt; Su=<br \/>\nbject: Re: Lost my Position!<br \/> &gt; !! Am I the only lady?? (Midori so doesn&#8217;=<br \/>\nt count&#8230;) # 4!<br \/> &gt; Tymm, you have a life. Just&#8230;own it. ;  ) You crack =<br \/>\nme up; funny I &#8220;met&#8221;<br \/> &gt; you for the first time at the show all like, &#8220;we&#8217;=<br \/>\nve met on the list.&#8221; We&#8217;re<br \/> &gt; stuck in front of our screens&#8230;<br \/> &gt; The =<br \/>\nproblem with quantitative statistics is that it doesn&#8217;t take into<br \/> &gt; acco=<br \/>\nunt posts like some of Diamtos&#8217; that are crazy long and complicated.<br \/> &gt; O=<br \/>\nk, Syed, we gotta keep teaming up&#8230;anymore James lyrics, or shall we move &gt; on to new plans&#8230;?? &#8220;Say something, say something, anything\/I&#8217;ve shown=<br \/>\n you<br \/> &gt; everything\/Give me a sign&#8221;<br \/> &gt; You can&#8217;t say I haven&#8217;t tried to=<br \/>\n be a part of making community!<br \/> &gt; After tomorrow, post-paper, I am total=<br \/>\nly spending my time with trees, kids,<br \/> &gt; cars, Tex-pats, dogs and cameras=<br \/>\n in the 76 degree sunny weather,<br \/> &gt; XO Ruthie<br \/> &gt;<br \/> &gt; On Sat, Dec 20,=<br \/>\n 2008 at 1:57 PM, Swerdloff &lt;jonathan@swerdloff.com&gt; wrote:=<br \/>\n<br \/> &gt;&gt;<br \/> &gt;&gt; Where is this again?<br \/> &gt;&gt;<br \/> &gt;&gt; I used to be #1, and I&#8217;m i=<br \/>\ntching for a comeback&#8230;<br \/> &gt;&gt;<br \/> &gt;&gt; .oO( much to all of your chagrin&#8230; )=<br \/>\n<br \/> &gt;&gt;<br \/> &gt;&gt; :misses MOOs sometimes<br \/> &gt;&gt;<br \/> &gt;&gt;<br \/> &gt;&gt;<br \/> &gt;&gt; On Dec 20,=<br \/>\n 2008, at 1:49 PM, Corey Menscher wrote:<br \/> &gt;&gt;<br \/> &gt;&gt; Dude.  I&#8217;m 10th on th=<br \/>\ne &#8220;Top Posters&#8221; for The List this month.  I don&#8217;t<br \/> &gt;&gt; think I&#8217;ve ever bee=<br \/>\nn that low:<br \/> &gt;&gt;<br \/> &gt;&gt; 114     tmt&#8230;@nyu.edu<br \/> &gt;&gt; 85      syed.itp@gmail.com<br \/> &gt;&gt; 80      jelanij&#8230;@hotmail.com<br \/>=<br \/>\n &gt;&gt; 78      ruthie.do&#8230;@nyu.edu<br \/> &gt;&gt; 73      midori.yas&#8230;@nyu.=<br \/>\nedu<br \/> &gt;&gt; 65      ot&#8230;@nyu.edu<br \/> &gt;&gt; 62      mh1&#8230;@nyu.edu=<br \/>\n<br \/> &gt;&gt; 60      jonat&#8230;@swerdloff.com<br \/> &gt;&gt; 56      ari.l.jo=<br \/>\ns&#8230;@gmail.com<br \/> &gt;&gt; 54      corey.mensc&#8230;@nyu.edu<br \/> &gt;&gt;<br \/> &gt;=<br \/>\n&gt; You go, Tymm!<br \/> &gt;&gt;<br \/> &gt;&gt; Corey Menscher<br \/> &gt;&gt; corey.menscher=<br \/>\n@nyu.edu<br \/> &gt;&gt; http:\/\/www.crackbl=<br \/>\nur.com<br \/> &gt;&gt;<br \/> &gt;&gt;<br \/> &gt;&gt;<br \/> &gt;&gt;<br \/> &gt;&gt;<br \/> &gt;&gt; &#8212;<br \/> &gt;&gt; You are curr=<br \/>\nently subscribed to itp-students as: jonathan@swerdloff.com&gt;<br \/> &gt;&gt;<br \/> &gt;&gt;=<br \/>\na&gt;leave-9867705-4327434.b52f08053e8624018ec3e87e96c6930d@lists.nyu.edu leave-9870813-4275494.c35dd09af2201348781fd7f21cf60547@list=<br \/>\ns.nyu.edu<br \/> &gt;<br \/> &gt; &#8212; <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&gt; You are currently subscribed=<br \/>\n to itp-students as: Dimatosj@gmail.com <\/p>\n<div>&gt; To unsubscr=<br \/>\nibe send a blank email to <\/div>\n<p>&gt; leave-9870969-4715501.b4dc1c=<br \/>\n24694184cbaae97651dfcff2cf@lists.nyu.edu<\/p>\n<p> &#8212;<\/p>\n<p> =<br \/>\n________________________<br \/> Cedant arma togae<br \/> sent from my basal gangli=<br \/>\na<br \/> ITP MPS NYU<br \/> ph. 917.650.5683 <\/p>\n<div> &#8212;<br \/> You are current=<br \/>\nly subscribed to itp-students as: ruthie.doyle@nyu.edu<br \/> leave-98=<br \/>\n74318-3976706.3e49acc3f2cca134e69493366429f2c1@lists.nyu.edu <\/div>\n<p> &#8212;<br \/>\nnscher@nyu.edu&#8221;&gt;corey.menscher@nyu.edu<br \/>\n6.8b296b45ae2c0c4d3c48004106460b64@lists.nyu.edu&#8221;&gt;leave-9874365-3303836.8b29=<br \/>\n6b45ae2c0c4d3c48004106460b64@lists.nyu.edu<\/div>\n<p>\n&#8212;<br \/>\n59ffd6927690e6c1@lists.nyu.edu<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Perhaps another good way to determi= ne signal\/noise ratio is to watch how many posts are contained in a thread..= .the longer the thread, the&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-897","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-listserv","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/897","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=897"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/897\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=897"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=897"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=897"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}