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Thanks Mike, actually now I'm also in a small crisis to which is my cou=
\nntry, and also what responsibilities I have towards them. I'm in Mexico =
\nwhere in just one year in a half, it has changed drastically. I have never s=
\neen people so paranoid and scared. You explain Twitter to people or many Itp=
\n projects it makes them anxious. It seems that the sudden raise =
\nin security problems (kidnapping, robbery, extorsion), and the economical cr=
\nisis, ironically makes people scared of innovation of technology, and the us=
\nage of it. <\/p>\n
Now is time to start putting priorities. But well, just sharing some th=
\noughts and impressions. Thanks for the comment. <\/p>\n
<\/p>\n
Also, being bilingual, you have more than just Mexico and the U.S. to
\nconsider as possible placement. You have most of South America,
\nSpain, as well as any English-speaking country in which to look for
\njobs.<\/p>\n
\nOn Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Sandra D=E1vila <sandraxi@gmail.com> wrote:
\n> Interesting discussion… thanks patrick for the resources they seem r=
\neally
\n> interesting.
\n>
\n> What worries me more and I don't know about other people what happ=
\nens with
\n> international people after itp… does people go back to their country=
\n?
\n>
\n> I have being discerning about this.. should I come back to Mexico?… =
\nIs
\n> difficult when you invest a lot of money and your country is not able =
\nto
\n> offer you opportunities regarding your studies, anyway just some thoug=
\nhts.
\n>
\n>
\n> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:46 AM, mike clemow <gelfmuse@gmail.com> wrote:
\n>>
\n>> It ought to be said that, if you were looking to make huge $$$, yo=
\nu're
\n>> kind of in the wrong place too. I'm certainly taking a m=
\najor salary
\n>> cut in addition to accruing thousands in debt by coming here=
\n. My
\n>> hope is that it's worth it to have a job that makes me happy.
\n>>
\n>> My humble $0.02.
\n>>
\n>> -mc
\n>>
\n>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Patrick Grizzard <roygbiv@gmail.com>
\n>> wrote:
\n>> > This is a job managing the studio for a single artist who mak=
\nes work for
\n>> > galleries, museums and private collectors, so I don't thi=
\nnk its really
\n>> > representative of the job market as a whole. Presumably this =
\njob would
\n>> > appeal to someone who is looking for the opportunity to work =
\nfor a name
\n>> > artist and get experience working on large-scale projects, ma=
\nke
\n>> > connections
\n>> > in the art world, and, by doing so, improve their own opportu=
\nnities for
\n>> > showing work, being represented, getting exposure, etc., etc.=
\n IOW, this
\n>> > job
\n>> > is REALLY not about the money. If that's more of a priori=
\nty, then I
\n>> > think,
\n>> > in general, you're going to be looking at jobs with inter=
\nactive agencies
\n>> > and
\n>> > studios, tech start-ups, or perhaps an in-house design\/techno=
\nlogy
\n>> > division
\n>> > of a larger media\/web\/tech company.
\n>> >
\n>> > This is not to say that there aren't people out there try=
\ning to find an
\n>> > interaction designer with great graphic design and programmin=
\ng skills,
\n>> > experience editing feature-length films and creating broadcas=
\nt-qulity
\n>> > motion
\n>> > graphics, basic robotics knowledge, strong bookeeping skills,=
\n and a
\n>> > portable
\n>> > espresso maker for $12\/hour. I think people who are looking f=
\nor this are
\n>> > generally clueless and\/or desparate and, as Tymm mentioned, t=
\nhey assume
\n>> > that
\n>> > a recent grad is more likely to take what they can get, so IT=
\nP gets
\n>> > targeted
\n>> > disproportionately with these types of jobs.
\n>> >
\n>> > Check out some job posting sites to get a better sense of wha=
\nt the
\n>> > market is
\n>> > actually like. I haven't been looking recently, but these=
\n used to be
\n>> > some of
\n>> > my go-to resources. Also, where else do people look for job p=
\nostings (FT
\n>> > or
\n>> > freelance gigs)?
\n>> >
\n>> > http:\/\/www.coroflot.com\/public\/jobs_browse.asp
\n>> > http=
\n:\/\/jobs.37signals.com\/
\n>> > http:\/\/jobs.boxesandarrows.com\/jobs
\n>> > http:\/\/www.ixda.org\/topics.php?topic=3Djobs
\n>> >
\n>> > Also, some recruiters post open job descriptions on their sit=
\nes:
\n>> > http:\/\/w=
\nww.aquent.com\/
\n>> > http:\/\/www.=
\ncgr.com\/
\n>> >
\n>> > I also have a number of recruiters I've worked with in th=
\ne past who send
\n>> > out
\n>> > weekly or monthly emails with open jobs. A lot of these same =
\nones go to
\n>> > the
\n>> > IxDA listserv, if your subscribed to that. Same with nyc-chi.=
\n
\n>> >
\n>> > :P
\n>> >
\n>> >
\n>> > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 3:11 AM, petra farinha
\n>> > <petra.prin=
\ntscreen@gmail.com>
\n>> > wrote:
\n>> >>
\n>> >> it~s funny that midori sends emails so early…when we ar=
\ne still here!
\n>> >>
\n>> >> but yes…welcome to the job posts!!
\n>> >> and there are others that ask for people that do everythi=
\nng: designer,
\n>> >> coding for everything u can imagine, architect, product d=
\nesigner,
\n>> >> coffee
\n>> >> maker, secretary for less money!
\n>> >>
\n>> >> sweet dreams!
\n>> >>
\n>> >> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Tymm Twillman <tmt271@nyu.edu> wrote:
\n>> >>>
\n>> >>> A lot of the postings to the list are pretty bad like=
\n that, but I
\n>> >>> suspect the folks who want to pay crappily tend to se=
\nnd out more
\n>> >>> requests.
\n>> >>>
\n>> >>> But yeah, that's an awful salary for this kind of=
\n position.
\n>> >>>
\n>> >>> On Dec 31, 2008, at 2:59 AM, Robert Carlsen wrote:
\n>> >>>
\n>> >>> > I really hope this isn't representative of t=
\nhe job market….that
\n>> >>> > was
\n>> >>> > my starting salary as a multimedia developer fre=
\nsh out of undergrad,
\n>> >>> > with a graphic design degree and no practical pr=
\nogramming
\n>> >>> > experience….in 2000.
\n>> >>> >
\n>> >>> > so, if that's what i have to look forward to=
\n after 10 years of
\n>> >>> > experience and an $80,000+ investment in further=
\n education,
\n>> >>> > then….ouch.
\n>> >>> >
\n>> >>> >>
\n>> >>> >> Job title =96 Technology manager\/software de=
\nveloper for multimedia
\n>> >>> >> artist studio
\n>> >>> >>
\n>> >>> >> Ideal candidate has several years experience=
\n or a grad degree.
\n>> >>> >>
\n>> >>> >> …Starting salary is $38,000, plus benefits=
\n after 90 days for full
\n>> >>> >> time. Part
\n>> >>> >> time considered for the right candidate; sal=
\nary negotiable.
\n>> >>> >
\n>> >>> >
\n>> >>> > —
\n tmt271@nyu.edu
\n>> >>> > leave-9919208-3322519.d58c6c1504d702=
\n841edff57af865c1ed@lists.nyu.edu
\n>> >>>
\n>> >>>
\n>> >>> —
\n>> >>> petra.=
\nprintscreen@gmail.com
\n>> >>> leave-9919210-3318506.c07a5ec5121385706e7=
\n7a00ba4428182@lists.nyu.edu
\n>> >>
\n>> >>
\n>> >>
\n>> >> —
\n>> >> Petra Farinha
\n>> >>
\n>> >> —
\n=3D”mailto:roygbiv@gmail.com”>roygbiv@gmail.com
\n>> >> leave-9919212-4275892.19dc8f31fb7af86c6922856=
\n7c6688440@lists.nyu.edu
\n>> >
\n>> >
\n>> > —
\n>> > Patrick J. Grizzard
\n>> > www.gn=
\neumatic.net
\n>> >
\n>> > —
\nailto:gelfmuse@gmail.com”>gelfmuse@gmail.com
\n>> > leave-9919441-3385671.7f68c50ffcbbb19bdd4d2903f44=
\n790d1@lists.nyu.edu
\n>>
\n>>
\n>>
\n>> —
\n>> http:\/\/mich=
\naelclemow.com
\n>> http:\/\/semiotec=
\nh.org
\n>>
\n>> —
\n:sandraxi@gmail.com”>sandraxi@gmail.com
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