what about now that there are a few PhD programs that are art\/
\ntechnology fusions like ITP? does that suddenly up the ante for every
\ndigital media masters program because masters is no longer terminal\/
\nhighest?<\/p>\n
On Jan 12, 2009, at 5:12 PM, Sandra Villarreal wrote:<\/p>\n
> Rob is kind of right too, but the answer may not be as simple.
\n>
\n> From the New York State Education Department’s Office of College and
\n> University Evaluation, Chapter I of Title 8 of the Official
\n> Compilation of Codes, sections 3.47 and 3.50.
\n>
\n> Highlights: 3.47, Sec. D, SubSec 2 lists the MPS and MFA BOTH under
\n> “professional degrees” which it indicates are designed as
\n> “primarily terminal in nature”. This is key language. It means the
\n> state recognizes that the degrees may be terminal. They may not. The
\n> state does not involve itself in this distinction, which is
\n> determined at local levels (schools and professional\/academic\/
\n> accreditation associations).
\n>
\n> 3.50, Sec. A “General Degrees in course” lists the AA\/AS, BA\/BS, MA\/
\n> MS, M. Phil. and Ph. D. as well as the Professional Degrees (BPS, B
\n> Tech., MPS, DPS, and DA). Sec. B. “Specialized Degrees in course”
\n> lists the multitudes of very specific degrees, including the MFA.
\n>
\n> According to the State of New York, this subsection defines what
\n> would be the only difference between the two.
\n>
\n> The point that CUNY is recognizing one as terminal rather than the
\n> other, in this case, is not simply a matter of bureaucratic
\n> bookkeeping; rather, someone made this decision. Perhaps the
\n> reasoning may be inferred somewhere in this distinction. That is,
\n> however, supposition. Since there is no federally recognized base
\n> standard on the question of terminal degrees, states, and
\n> associations, and schools, are left on their own to decide. The
\n> state standard in this case, clearly, does not help.
\n>
\n> http:\/\/www.highered.nysed.gov\/ocue\/chapter_i_of_title_8_of_the_offi.htm#Section%203.50.%20Registered%20Degrees
\n>
\n> The ITP website describes the program as “the first graduate program
\n> in alternative media”. It also reads: “The curriculum is devoted to
\n> teaching the practice and theory that emerge from the convergence of
\n> new media technologies.” M.F.A. programs in New Media, Interactive
\n> Media and Design and Technology already exist. Their curricula
\n> includes theory and practice and a minimum of a two-semester thesis
\n> paper and project. They are not intensive programs.
\n>
\n> Despite the fact that ITP is not an art, design or engineering
\n> program, graduates from the program often look for jobs in the field
\n> of art and design and hold positions as creative directors, art
\n> directors, designers, interactive designers, producers researchers
\n> and visiting instructors or adjunct professors in art or design
\n> schools. In these fields the M.F.A. (specialized degree) is consider
\n> the terminal degree.
\n>
\n> S.
\n>
\n> On Jan 11, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Rob Faludi [list] wrote:
\n>
\n>> Sandra is kind of right, yet ITP is not an art school or a design
\n>> school or an engineering school. For better or worse it has a deal
\n>> all its own, hence the MPS, which is indeed considered terminal.
\n>> The State of New York accredits it as such, but for some reason
\n>> CUNY, which is run by the State of New York does not have the
\n>> bureaucratic machinery to recognize it so they need to apply for
\n>> exceptions.
\n>>
\n>> http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Terminal_degree
\n>> http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Master_of_Professional_Studies
\n>>
\n>> I’m sure someone can come up with a more authoritative reference
\n>> source than Wikipedia. Maybe someone with an MLS?
\n>>
\n>> –Rob
\n>>
\n>>
\n>> On Jan 11, 2009, at 5:19 PM, Sandra Villarreal wrote:
\n>>
\n>>> The department will have to make the case for the candidate in
\n>>> question because an MPS is not considered a terminal degree, as
\n>>> Rob points out (at CUNY, in NY and in the US).
\n>>>
\n>>> A terminal degree is the highest degree earnable in a given field
\n>>> of study. Usually is a PhD. The only exceptions exist in the
\n>>> fields of applied arts such as creative writing, graphic design,
\n>>> fine arts, video art and interactive design, where an MFA is the
\n>>> terminal degree.
\n>>>
\n>>> For example, an MFA right now is the terminal degree for game
\n>>> design and game art because there is no PhD in game design. A PhD
\n>>> is the terminal degree for game development (programming as
\n>>> opposed to design). MPS is not a terminal degree in the fields of
\n>>> art, design, media, journalism and education because there are
\n>>> MFA, Ed.D and PhD in these fields.
\n>>>
\n>>> Terminal Master programs are often designated by specific
\n>>> descriptive titles such as Master of Education (M.Ed), Master of
\n>>> Fine Arts (M.F.A) or Master of Architecture (M.Arch). Typically a
\n>>> terminal Master takes more time than a non-terminal Master to
\n>>> complete (1-2 vs. 2-3 years) Some academic art institutions even
\n>>> use the MA (Master of Art) degree (30 credits) as a prerequisite
\n>>> for final acceptance into MFA candidacy. An MFA also requires the
\n>>> completion of certain amount of credits in art history and
\n>>> philosophy.
\n>>>
\n>>> MFA is usually a requirement to teach art and design at the rank
\n>>> of assistant professor. I don’t know about other fields.
\n>>>
\n>>>
\n>>> On Jan 11, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Rob Faludi [list] wrote:
\n>>>
\n>>>> CUNY officially categorizes the MPS as a non-terminal degree, so
\n>>>> it has to go through an exceptions process. This is their own
\n>>>> pain, not yours.
\n>>>>
\n>>>>
\n>>>> On Jan 8, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Caleb wrote:
\n>>>>
\n>>>>> Midori. Hope you and family are well. This caught my eye from
\n>>>>> the below email “If we can make a strong case for a
\n>>>>> candidate, they are willing to consider the MPS as a terminal
\n>>>>> degree”
\n>>>>> since I’m looking for academic teaching jobs. I thought an MPS
\n>>>>> WAS terminal? Especially in NYC? and on par with an MFA??? Any
\n>>>>> new thoughts about this as one who has to defend an MPS as
\n>>>>> terminal out of state???
\n>>>>>
\n>>>>> I am going for teaching in Art, Communications, Media,
\n>>>>> Journalism, and Education depts. mostly.
\n>>>>>
\n>>>>> On Jan 6, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Midori Yasuda wrote:
\n>>>>>>>> The New York City College of Technology, Department of
\n>>>>>>>> Entertainment
\n>>>>>>>> Technology, invites applications for a tenure-track, full time
\n>>>>>>>> position in Interactive Entertainment at the rank of Assistant
\n>>>>>>>> Professor, beginning in September 2009. Even though there
\n>>>>>>>> are some
\n>>>>>>>> hurdles to overcome within CUNY (regarding the terminal
\n>>>>>>>> degree),
\n>>>>>>>> please do share the attached announcement with alumni,
\n>>>>>>>> colleagues, and
\n>>>>>>>> friends who may be interested. If we can make a strong case
\n>>>>>>>> for a
\n>>>>>>>> candidate, they are willing to consider the MPS as a terminal
\n>>>>>>>> degree.
\n>>>>>>>>
\n>>>>>>>> Additional details, including application instructions, may
\n>>>>>>>> be found at:
\n>>>>>>>> http:\/\/portal.cuny.edu\/cms\/id\/cuny\/documents\/jobposting\/027788.htm
\n>>>>>>>>
\n>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
\n>>>>>>>>
\n>>>>>>>> Jenna Spevack
\n>>>>>>>> Chair, Interactive Entertainment Search Committee
\n>>>>>> New York City College of Technology
\n>>>>>> THE CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK
\n>>>>>>
\n>>>>>> DEPARTMENT OF ENTERTIANMENT TECHNOLOGY
\n>>>>>> SCHOOL OF TECHNOLOGY AND DESIGN
\n>>>>>> 300 Jay Street V411
\n>>>>>> Brooklyn, NY 11201
\n>>>>>> www.entertainmenttechnology.org
\n>>>>>>
\n>>>>>> CAREER OPPORTUNITY
\n>>>>>> Title: Assistant Professor – Interactive Entertainment
\n>>>>>> Location\/Department: Entertainment Technology
\n>>>>>> Compensation: Commensurate with education and experience.
\n>>>>>> Closing Date: Open until filled with review of resumes to begin
\n>>>>>> 11\/24\/08
\n>>>>>> Website: http:\/\/portal.cuny.edu\/cms\/id\/cuny\/documents\/jobposting\/027788.htm
\n>>>>>>
\n>>>>>> POSITION DESCRIPTION AND DUTIES
\n>>>>>> The New York City College of Technology, Department of
\n>>>>>> Entertainment Technology,
\n>>>>>> invites applications for a tenure-track, full time position in
\n>>>>>> Interactive Entertainment at the
\n>>>>>> rank of assistant professor, beginning in September 2009.
\n>>>>>> The department offers undergraduate instruction in a variety of
\n>>>>>> disciplines, including
\n>>>>>> lighting, sound, show control, and video systems. New programs
\n>>>>>> in development include
\n>>>>>> emerging media technology, music technology, interactive
\n>>>>>> control, and video production.
\n>>>>>> The successful candidate will teach courses in several areas
\n>>>>>> including, but not limited to
\n>>>>>> Interactive Media, Entertainment Control Systems, Electricity,
\n>>>>>> Tangible Computing, and
\n>>>>>> Introduction to Entertainment Technology. The Assistant
\n>>>>>> Professor will also be expected to
\n>>>>>> develop, plan, and prepare curricula related to a program track
\n>>>>>> in integrated and
\n>>>>>> interactive entertainment technologies.
\n>>>>>>
\n>>>>>> QUALIFICATION REQUIREMENTS
\n>>>>>> Qualifications for the rank of assistant professor include a
\n>>>>>> terminal degree in a field related
\n>>>>>> to interactive media systems, and significant experience in
\n>>>>>> both design and technical
\n>>>>>> implementations. Media related software engineering experience
\n>>>>>> and excellent
\n>>>>>> communications skills are essential. Candidates should provide
\n>>>>>> evidence of creative,
\n>>>>>> professional, and scholarly activity with adequate
\n>>>>>> documentation of productions,
\n>>>>>> publications, research, and curriculum materials.
\n>>>>>>
\n>>>>>> TO APPLY
\n>>>>>> Send cover letter of introduction and resume.
\n>>>>>> Email: isr@citytech.cuny.edu
\n>>>>>> Subject Line: Interactive Entertainment
\n>>>>>> Contact: Ms. M. Harris, Director, ISR
\n>>>>>>
\n>>>>>> The City University of New York
\n>>>>>> An Equal Employment Opportunity\/Affirmative Action\/Immigration
\n>>>>>> Reform and Control Act\/
\n>>>>>> Americans with Disabilities Act Employer
\n>>>>>>>
\n>>>>>>
\n>>>>>>
\n>>>>>> —
\n>>>>>>
\n>>>>>
\n>>>>>
\n>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
\n>>>>> ~ Caleb J. Clark
\n>>>>> ~ Portfolio: http:\/\/www.calebjohnclark.com
\n>>>>> ~ “The problem with communication is the assumption it has been
\n>>>>> accomplished.” – G. B. Shaw.
\n>>>>>
\n>>>>>
\n>
\n>
\n> —<\/p>\n
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