{"id":973,"date":"2009-01-13T23:22:10","date_gmt":"2009-01-13T19:22:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/2009\/01\/13\/re-job-teaching-position-in-interactive-entertainment-cuny-11\/"},"modified":"2009-01-13T23:22:10","modified_gmt":"2009-01-13T19:22:10","slug":"re-job-teaching-position-in-interactive-entertainment-cuny-11","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/itp.nyu.edu\/opportunities\/2009\/01\/13\/re-job-teaching-position-in-interactive-entertainment-cuny-11\/","title":{"rendered":"Re: JOB: Teaching Position in Interactive Entertainment, CUNY"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Content-Type: text\/html;<br \/>\n\tcharset=&#8221;WINDOWS-1252&#8243;<\/p>\n<div>Interesting question. Here is a quo=<br \/>\nte from CAA:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<div>=93At this time, few=<br \/>\n institutions in the United States offer a PhD degree in studio art, and it =<br \/>\ndoes not appear to be a trend that will continue or grow, or that the PhD wi=<br \/>\nll replace the MFA. To develop a standard for a degree that has not been ade=<br \/>\nquately vetted or assessed, and is considered atypical for the studio-arts p=<br \/>\nrofession, is premature and may lead to confusion, rather than offer guidanc=<br \/>\ne, to CAA members, their institutions, and other professional arts organizat=<br \/>\nions.=94<\/font><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>The point that I was trying t=<br \/>\no address=A0earlier=A0is that the definition of terminal degree vary from fi=<br \/>\neld to field. When we add the=A0fields of art, design and new media to the e=<br \/>\nquation, we need to take a look at their standards. It is not up to the acad=<br \/>\nemic department to define the degree as terminal. These decisions are made b=<br \/>\ny=A0professional associations and=A0accreditation=A0institutions. CAA clearl=<br \/>\ny defines the standards for the teaching and practice in the visual arts (in=<br \/>\ncluding new media).=A0<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>http:\/\/www.collegeart.org\/guidelines\/mfa.html<\/div>\n<div>=<br \/>\nhttp:\/\/www.collegeart.org\/guidelines\/tenure2.html<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p>Students that plan to pursue a career as new media artist, designers or e=<br \/>\nducators should be aware of these standards. Exceptions are made all the tim=<br \/>\ne, of course.<\/p><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>S.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<div>On Jan 12, 2009, at 8:25 PM, Eric Forman wrote:<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div>what about now tha=<br \/>\nt there are a few PhD programs that are art\/technology fusions like ITP?=A0 <\/span>does that suddenly up the ante =<br \/>\nfor every digital media masters program because masters is no longer termina=<br \/>\nl\/highest?<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>On Jan 12, 2009, at 5:12 PM, Sandra Vi=<br \/>\nllarreal wrote:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Rob is kind of right too, but the answer may not=<br \/>\n be as simple.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>=<br \/>\nFrom the New York State Education Department&#8217;s Office of College and Univers=<br \/>\nity Evaluation, Chapter I of Title 8 of the Official Compilation of Codes, s=<br \/>\nections 3.47 and 3.50.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Highlights: 3.47, Sec. D, SubSec 2 lists the MPS and MFA BOTH under =<br \/>\n&#8220;professional<span>=A0 <\/span>degrees&#8221; which=<br \/>\n it indicates are designed as &#8220;primarily terminal in nature&#8221;. This is key la=<br \/>\nnguage. It means the state recognizes that the degrees may be terminal. They=<br \/>\n may not. The state does not involve itself in this distinction, which is de=<br \/>\ntermined at local levels (schools and professional\/academic\/accreditation as=<br \/>\nsociations).<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>3.=<br \/>\n50, Sec. A &#8220;General Degrees in course&#8221; lists the AA\/AS, BA\/BS, MA\/MS, M. Phi=<br \/>\nl. and Ph. D. as well as the Professional Degrees (BPS, B Tech., MPS, DPS, a=<br \/>\nnd DA). Sec. B. &#8220;Specialized Degrees in course&#8221; lists the multitudes of very=<br \/>\n specific degrees, including the MFA.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>According to the State of New York, this subsection d=<br \/>\nefines what would be the only difference between the two.<\/div>\n<div style=\"3D=\"><\/div>\n<div>The point that CUNY is recognizin=<br \/>\ng one as terminal rather than the other, in this case, is not simply a matte=<br \/>\nr of bureaucratic bookkeeping; rather, someone made this decision. Perhaps t=<br \/>\nhe reasoning may be inferred somewhere in this distinction. That is, however=<br \/>\n, supposition. Since there is no federally recognized base standard on the q=<br \/>\nuestion of terminal degrees, states, and associations, and schools, are left=<br \/>\n on their own to decide. The<span>=A0 state standard in this case, clearly, does not help.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>http:\/\/www.highered.nysed.gov\/ocue\/chapter_i_of_title_8_of_the_off=<br \/>\ni.htm#Section%203.50.%20Registered%20Degrees<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>The ITP website describes the program as &#8220;=<br \/>\nthe first graduate program in alternative media&#8221;. It also reads: &#8220;The curric=<br \/>\nulum is devoted to teaching the practice and theory that emerge from the con=<br \/>\nvergence of new media technologies.&#8221; M.F.A. programs in New Media, Interacti=<br \/>\nve Media and Design and Technology already exist. Their curricula includes t=<br \/>\nheory and practice and a minimum of a two-semester thesis paper and project.=<br \/>\n They are not intensive programs.<\/div>\n<div><\/p>\n<div>Despite the fact that ITP is not an art, design or engine=<br \/>\nering program, graduates from the program often look for jobs in the field o=<br \/>\nf art and design and hold positions as creative directors, art directors, de=<br \/>\nsigners, interactive designers, producers researchers and visiting instructo=<br \/>\nrs or adjunct professors in art or design schools. In these fields the M.F.A=<br \/>\n. (specialized degree) is consider the terminal degree.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>S.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>On Jan 11, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Rob Faludi [list] =<br \/>\nwrote:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Sandra is kind of right, yet ITP is not an art school or =<br \/>\na design school or an engineering school. For better or worse it has a deal =<br \/>\nall its own, hence the MPS, which is indeed considered terminal. The State o=<br \/>\nf New York accredits it as such, but for some reason CUNY, which is run by t=<br \/>\nhe State of New York does not have the bureaucratic machinery to recognize i=<br \/>\nt so they need to apply for exceptions.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Terminal_degree<\/div>\n<div>http:\/=<br \/>\n\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Master_of_Professional_Studies<\/div>\n<div style=\"3D=\"><\/div>\n<div>I&#8217;m sure someone can come up with=<br \/>\n a more authoritative reference source than Wikipedia. Maybe someone with an=<br \/>\n MLS?<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>&#8211;Rob<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>=<br \/>\n<\/div>\n<div>On Jan 11, 2009, at 5:19 PM, Sandra Villarreal wrote=<br \/>\n:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p> =<\/p>\n<div>The department will have to make the case for the candidate in=<br \/>\n question because an MPS is not considered a terminal degree, as Rob points =<br \/>\nout (at CUNY, in NY and in the US).<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>A terminal degree is the highest degree earnable in a g=<br \/>\niven field of study. Usually is a PhD. The only exceptions exist in the fiel=<br \/>\nds of applied arts such as creative writing, graphic design, fine arts, vide=<br \/>\no art and interactive design, where an MFA is the terminal degree.<\/div>\n<p><\/div>\n<div>For example, an MFA righ=<br \/>\nt now is the terminal degree for game design and game art because there is n=<br \/>\no PhD in game design. A PhD is the terminal degree for game development (pro=<br \/>\ngramming as opposed to design). MPS is not a terminal degree in the fields o=<br \/>\nf art, design, media, journalism and education because there are MFA, Ed.D a=<br \/>\nnd PhD in these fields.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Terminal Master programs are often designated by specific descripti=<br \/>\nve titles such as Master of Education (M.Ed), Master of Fine Arts (M.F.A) or=<br \/>\n Master of Architecture (M.Arch). Typically a terminal Master takes more tim=<br \/>\ne than a non-terminal Master to complete (1-2 vs. 2-3 years) Some academic a=<br \/>\nrt institutions even use the MA (Master of Art) degree (30 credits) as a pre=<br \/>\nrequisite for final acceptance into MFA candidacy. An MFA also requires the =<br \/>\ncompletion of certain amount of credits in art history and philosophy.<\/div>\n<p>=<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>MFA is usually a req=<br \/>\nuirement to teach art and design at the rank of assistant professor. I don&#8217;t=<br \/>\n know about other fields.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p><\/div>\n<div>On Jan 11, 2009, at 12:=<br \/>\n10 PM, Rob Faludi [list] wrote:<\/div>\n<div> <\/p>\n<div>CUNY officially categorizes the =<br \/>\nMPS as a non-terminal degree, so it has to go through an exceptions process.=<br \/>\n This is their own pain, not yours.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>On Jan 8, 200=<br \/>\n9, at 7:29 PM, Caleb wrote:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p> =<\/p>\n<div>Midori. Hope you and family are well=<br \/>\n. This caught my eye from the below email &#8220;If we can make a strong case for =<br \/>\na<\/div>\n<div>candidate, they are willing to consider the MPS as a te=<br \/>\nrminal degree&#8221;<\/div>\n<div>since I&#8217;m looking for academic teaching jo=<br \/>\nbs. I thought an MPS WAS terminal? Especially in NYC? and on par with an MFA=<br \/>\n??? Any new thoughts about this as one who has to defend an MPS as terminal =<br \/>\nout of state???<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div style=\"3D=\">I am going for teaching in Art, Communications, Media, Journalism, and Educ=<br \/>\nation depts. mostly.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>On Jan 6, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Midori Yasuda wrote:<\/div>\n<div>The New York City College of Technology, Department of Entertainment<\/p>\n<div>Technology, invites applications for a tenure-track, full ti=<br \/>\nme<\/div>\n<div>position in Interactive Entertainment at the rank of A=<br \/>\nssistant<\/div>\n<div>Professor, beginning in September 2009.<span>=A0 <\/span>Even though there are some<\/div>\n<p>hurdles to overcome within CUNY (regarding the terminal degree),<\/p>\n<div>please do share the attached announcement with alumni, col=<br \/>\nleagues, and<\/div>\n<div>friends who may be interested. If we can mak=<br \/>\ne a strong case for a<\/div>\n<div>candidate, they are willing to cons=<br \/>\nider the MPS as a terminal degree.<\/div>\n<div>=\n<\/div>\n<div>Additional details, including application instructions, =<br \/>\nmay be found at:<\/div>\n<div>http:\/\/portal.cuny.edu\/cms\/id\/cuny\/do=<br \/>\ncuments\/jobposting\/027788.htm<\/div>\n<div><\/p>\n<div>Sincerely,<\/div>\n<div><\/p>\n<div>Jenna Spevack<\/div>\n<div>Chair, Interactive Entertain=<br \/>\nment Search Committee<\/div>\n<div>New York=<br \/>\n City College of Technology<\/div>\n<div>THE CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YO=<br \/>\nRK<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>DEPARTMENT O=<br \/>\nF ENTERTIANMENT TECHNOLOGY<\/div>\n<div>SCHOOL OF TECHNOLOGY AND DESIG=<br \/>\nN<\/div>\n<div>300 Jay Street V411<\/div>\n<div>Brooklyn, NY 112=<br \/>\n01<\/div>\n<div>www.entertainmenttechnology.org<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>CAREER OPPORTUNITY<\/div>\n<div style=\"3D=\">Title: Assistant Professor &#8211; Interactive Entertainment<\/div>\n<div>L=<br \/>\nocation\/Department: Entertainment Technology<\/div>\n<div>Compensation=<br \/>\n: Commensurate with education and experience.<\/div>\n<div>Closing Dat=<br \/>\ne: Open until filled with review of resumes to begin 11\/24\/08<\/div>\n<div>Website: http:\/\/portal.cuny.edu\/cms\/id\/cuny\/documents\/jobposting\/027=<br \/>\n788.htm<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>POS=<br \/>\nITION DESCRIPTION AND DUTIES<\/div>\n<div>The New York City College of=<br \/>\n Technology, Department of Entertainment Technology,<\/div>\n<div>invi=<br \/>\ntes applications for a tenure-track, full time position in Interactive Enter=<br \/>\ntainment at the<\/div>\n<div>rank of assistant professor, beginning in=<br \/>\n September 2009.<\/div>\n<div>The department offers undergraduate inst=<br \/>\nruction in a variety of disciplines, including<\/div>\n<div>lighting, =<br \/>\nsound, show control, and video systems. New programs in development include<\/p>\n<div>emerging media technology, music technology, interactive =<br \/>\ncontrol, and video production.<\/div>\n<div>The successful candidate w=<br \/>\nill teach courses in several areas including, but not limited to<\/div>\n<div>Interactive Media, Entertainment Control Systems, Electricity, Tangi=<br \/>\nble Computing, and<\/div>\n<div>Introduction to Entertainment Technolo=<br \/>\ngy. The Assistant Professor will also be expected to<\/div>\n<div>deve=<br \/>\nlop, plan, and prepare curricula related to a program track in integrated an=<br \/>\nd<\/div>\n<div>interactive entertainment technologies.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>QUALIFICATION REQUIREMENTS<\/p>\n<div>Qualifications for the rank of assistant professor include a=<br \/>\n terminal degree in a field related<\/div>\n<div>to interactive media =<br \/>\nsystems, and significant experience in both design and technical<\/div>\n<div>implementations. Media related software engineering experience and e=<br \/>\nxcellent<\/div>\n<div>communications skills are essential. Candidates =<br \/>\nshould provide evidence of creative,<\/div>\n<div>professional, and sc=<br \/>\nholarly activity with adequate documentation of productions,<\/div>\n<div>publications, research, and curriculum materials.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>TO APPLY<\/div>\n<div>Send cove=<br \/>\nr letter of introduction and resume.<\/div>\n<div>Email: isr@citytech.cuny.edu<\/div>\n<div>Sub=<br \/>\nject Line: Interactive Entertainment<\/div>\n<div>Contact: Ms. M. Harr=<br \/>\nis, Director, ISR<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>The City University of New York<\/div>\n<div>An Equal Employment O=<br \/>\npportunity\/Affirmative Action\/Immigration Reform and Control Act\/<\/div>\n<div>Americans with Disabilities Act Employer<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>&#8212;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Content-Type: text\/html; charset=&#8221;WINDOWS-1252&#8243; Interesting question. 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