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Marina Zurkow: 2023 02 21

Had a meeting with Marina, who is only in the office hours system for a few more weeks. We started our conversation talking about cyborgs (Rebis) then pivoted to Rafale, Lozano-Hemmer’s Pulse Topology piece. I mentioned my EEG / PPG soundbath this Thursday as well as the Synchrony experiment from Connections Lab. I talked about my climate activism and policy work, and an idea that came up in Berlin of doing an installation where people’s movement in a room causes it to go from pleasant to hellish, and they are incentivized to move more slowly, together.

How do we use art and performance to create impact? People are primed for different experiences, like they are open to different things whether they walk into an exhibit, a protest, a show, a policy meeting. Marina suggested Ways of Being which I added as an audio book on my phone (the only way I have time to read things).

We also discussed moments of epiphany vs sustained daily change, and what has more impact. She mentioned the tool she made with Sarah, the 2×2 grid, and charting projects on that grid, using epiphany and practice, and high and low impact (or some other metric).

Also had a sidebar about naps, nap ministry, the nap room at Moma, Shi Lea Chaeng, and political resistance via napping (I’m a pro napper and big fan of this idea). I attended a nap event in Berlin in 2018 or so.

 

Meeting notes:

https://jasonjsnell.notion.site/Marina-Zurkow-d12e350c69e54127bfcc5d10a4882af2

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