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Jaye Cho

Reflection on the Spring Final Presentation (May 8) & Next Steps

Trying not to be negative, but still pretty disappointed with how I presented myself/my project.

I think it was a little all over the place and missing several crucial points, which is good to realize now, before the actual thesis presentation this summer.

I really appreciated a lot of the feedback, I also feel strongly that I need to be more confident and less apologetic (pointed out by several classmates), I was definitely being swallowed by the Zoom awkwardness this time around.

My biggest regret came when the guest artist Heather asked me about my fascination with “voting” as well as my personal background. I honestly was caught off guard and started rambling on things that, on second thought, don’t really represent what I truly think and the intention of the project. I was unnecessarily tieing my personal background into the concept of it, which I don’t think actually makes sense or sincere. I hope to be careful not to say things I don’t truly mean again in the future, when panicking and nervous. One good solution, of course, is to really commit to planning and rehearsal the next time around.

It’s also important to rethink how I carefully choose my words ahead of time next time around, and how I want to frame the work for outside audiences.

For the summer, I am really excited about the classes I am going to take, and how they might inspire me to build something outside of using Miro, while still tied to the same thesis question. My mentor had also invited me to visit him and his program in Hangzhou, to meet some professors and artists who’ve been working on community-based seminars. I’m also meeting up with friends working in art museums in Shanghai, to consider some longer future career plans…Afterall, the political risk of a Taiwanese national in China is very different from what an American national would face, and it’s something I need to consider alone and not something NYU Shanghai can provide actual help with (just look at who they got for commencement speaker this year lol). Overall, I’m really excited, and while the steps are pretty flexible, I feel confident that something interesting will come out of it.

Belated 1st Meeting with Mentor Ziyang Wu (May 5)

Due to scheduling difficulties, I was finally able to chat with Ziyang, who’s currently based in Hangzhou, China, last Friday. The conversation was so fun, it went from 1 hour to 2 hours, and we’ve agreed to touch base again during the summer session.

It was my first time trying to explain things in Mandarin to an artist who’s experienced in making art in both China and the USA. We spent a lot of time talking about the in-betweeness, the fear of being considered as an opportunist, and my kind of “strength” and “toughness,” which is more like a cotton/sponge rather than toughness in a traditional patriarchal sense.

I also asked him a lot about his honest experiences of censorship in China when it comes to artmaking, and I was able to get a better understanding of what to do and what to be careful of…I won’t go into the details here as I think some of the stuff shared were considered private.

Ziyang resonates with my strong interest in communicating with people and encourages me to think of ways that can bring the idea into a physical space during summer. While we had several different perspectives on political events, I felt understood and respected during our chat, and I hope he felt the same way.

Show-A-Thing Reflection

It was fun! And really great practice introducing my project and thesis idea to people with different backgrounds and expertise.

I purposely (partly also due to lack of time) didn’t make a PowerPoint presentation for my show-a-thing. However, I did read through the sample slides many times to try to structure the presentation in my head. I chose not to do it because my brain tend to stop functioning if I know there are slides there for me to refer to, and I often end up just start monologuing on and on, following the slides without actively thinking. I thought it would work best if I tried to practice actively revising on the spot how to introduce my project to strangers.


Heidi Brant

Heidi was my first audience early in the morning, and she was energetic and fun to talk to! Just when I was about to sharescreen (not to slideshow but the thesis proposal and other stuff), Heidi stopped me and asked me to practice telling her what my thesis is about completely verbally instead. This reminded me of our second (or third?) thesis class with Sarah, where we all had to talk about our thesis proposal in 1 min. I was pretty nervous, but I somehow made it!

The feedback from Heidi about the project was generally positive, and she totally supported the use of Miro board. She didn’t find it lame (my own word), despite the fact that she also uses the Miro Board on a daily basis. She still found the project interesting. Heidi did ask me to think about what I would want my audience to really take away from this project (if any). My answer to that is this is honestly just self-therapeutic work, and if participants even just grasp a little understanding from my perspective, I would find comfort in it. Heidi also talks about how my project seems like an investigation, a service into people’s subconscious (not unconscious).

An artist reference from Heidi is Douglas Huebler’s “The Secrets” artist book project.


Pierre Depaz

Knowing Pierre’s background in Political Science, I introduced my project more from that lens and felt comfortable diving into the origin and intention of the project, as I knew I didn’t need to over-explained the complicated geopolitical origins of all things. Pierre was great to talk to, and we also spent some time talking about the swastika poll and the reinvention of the public; it turned out Pierre had also done similar projects before. We also talked about the play between public/private space, the digital “self,” and how people react differently when they think they are representing their countries vs just representing themselves.

Project references from Pierre: Citizens Convention for Climate (2019), America in One Room (2019), Please Vote For Me (2007)


Cindy Jeffers

We had some technical difficulties since the meeting happened on Google Meet. The technical issues sort of got me into a chaotic space mentally and made me forget how to introduce my project a little bit. I was a little bit all over the place compared to the last two meetings. But overall, we still had a good time. Cindy was the first (and only, in terms of the people related to the Low Res program I’ve talked to about my project), that has not seen Miro Board before. When I showed her the prototype, it seemed the technology itself interested her a lot. She totally agrees this should be used as a broader polling tool before every meeting (which is common in many workplaces already, I assume). She agrees with my fascination that one is able to see voting live with the mouse cursor moving around but also stays anonymous. Cindy was the only person I picked who I didn’t find the background knowledge too related to my own project, so I wonder if the presumption made my explanation of the project difficult or if it really is difficult when presenting to someone who is outside your knowledge bubble. Anyway, it helps me think about how I will have to introduce this thesis project outside the Low Res community.


Monika Lin

It was great meeting with Monika again since we last talked in Fall, and I felt like this conversation was really helpful. Since she knew a little bit of my background from last semester, I was able to talk more about the concerns and problems I’m having with the meaning of the thesis. Monika really enjoyed the Miro Board but also recommended the questions need to go deeper with extended sections. I showed her I was actually working on it, but it’s actually a difficult task to figure out the right balance to ask a question that has the right enough discomfort that I don’t turn off the conversation at all. As Monika put it, it’s like cooking the lobster. The second layer of the questions is an art I have to learn to master in order to make the poll works as well as I wish. I also asked about Monika’s personal experience as an artist working in China and whether she’d encountered censorship. The answer is ALWAYS. I won’t give out the details here, but it’s a constant struggle with a lot of internal conflicts for sure. Anyway, we had a lot of fun chatting.


YG Zhang

My meeting with YG was the last one of the day. Since I know YG also speaks Mandarin,  I was at first wondering if I could try to introduce my thesis project in Mandarin, but I completely failed and switched back to English. My Mandarin is definitely way more fluent than my English, but somehow when it comes to introducing sensitive or personal artworks and projects, I couldn’t do it in my native tongue as I felt exposed, naked almost. Perhaps I was too nervous, and knowing YG didn’t know anything about me, I went in-depth talking about the swastika poll project. I felt like I actually did a really good job talking about the project this time around, no more misguiding, and it helped him understand more about what I’m trying to do in the thesis project. YG’s main questions were also on what’s the motivation behind it and what I wanted the general audience to get away from this experiment.


 

4th one-on-one w/ Sarah (April 3)

Met Sarah the day before the Show-A-Thing event. I presented my newest pivoted direction into using Miro Board, with a specific research focus on the formation of our cohort in the Low Res program.

Here are some takeaways from the conversation:

-The experience is about looking at how to start conversations on difficult topics.

-The provocation nature of my project(s); is it trolling? or is it an actual question?

-My relationship with my audiences (reach out to Roopa later in the project, maybe)

-Question on contextualizing this current project – connection to previous projects (graduation stunt, the swastika poll…any more), what is this project going to take form outside of the Low Res, or maybe during the summer?

-Figure out how to express my ideas and this project through the show-a-thing

 

Sarah also wants me to continue developing the prototype and test it with as many students as possible. And if needed, maybe at the end of April 18’s class, I can do a small experiment at the end of the class (but only with students who volunteer to participate).

5th group meeting w/ Beth (March 28)

During the second half of class time today, we broke into our thesis peer meeting group with Beth, I was able to test my prototype a little bit.

It was a Miro board with several questions for students to vote on.

 

Beth and my peers were super supportive of the idea and helped ease my doubt about the format of the project a little bit. Using an everyday digital tool to make conduct live polls like this is actually an interesting contrast.

 

My main concern being I don’t really have a time and space where I can “force” classmates to participate.

 

3rd 1-on-1 w/ Sarah (March 27)

Behind on the number of my meetings as well as thesis…

We went through the feedback on my proposal, although it seems less relevant now.

I really need to stop my troubling mind and try to focus on a specific, and more importantly, get into prototyping, whatever that means.

Hopefully with job cleared up more the following weeks I can catch up more.

 

 

Proposal Feedback

The concepts people think the thesis is about:

-Personal identity centered

-Post-truth World

-The proposal itself is an artifact

Questions:

-what will people do at the “input station” and why?

-what do I hope people take away from engaging with the installation?

-how does accessing my accounts connect to the questioning of post-truth world?

-the who’s the audience question

-will all of my artifacts be in response to similar questions and research?

References:

-Jon Ronson’s So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed

-Jenny Holzer’s work

-OpenWRT (router and then connect to VPN)

-Syphoner to grab the frames on the browser and sending the frames via Syphon to Touch Designer or MadMapper

 

 

Honestly, i’m not sure how my previous proposal is still relevant to what I want to do now, but I think it’s still going to be helpful to discuss all these feedback with Sarah during the next 1 on 1 session.

posting something I’ve made…….

I want to be upfront that the last 3 weeks has been hell work weeks.

I am also still very lost with my thesis…but I started a private account…photo dumping screenshots that is related to my thesis area of interest.

 

 

In addition, after watching the ITP Thesis sharing and conversations in previous peer meetings, I felt a strong sense of needing to organize my previous practice first in order to continue with the thesis. As a result, I started building my own website, and try to archive works from the past despite not having much proper documentation done due to anti-professionalism. It actually takes a long time to make, as I started from scratch… jjjcho.com

 

4th Group Session with Beth (March 15)

Had a group meeting with Beth and Chelsea during Spring break 🙂

Chelsea went over her current project, and how she’s experiencing with projection mapping. It reminded of the Bisa Butler show in Chicago two years ago. Where the city collaborated with the museum and other design firm to project Bisa’s physical works onto several public space buildings and walls. We talked about the pros and cons about the experience.

Beth then mentioned the Disneyland’s end of the day projection mapping with music and fireworks experience, which I agree is the most successful projection mapping work I’ve ever seen till this day. (just because it’s cheesy doesn’t mean it can’t be amazing).

I then shared about my progress, which is stuck as usual. We started talking about comedy, comedians, and stand up specials. Learned a lot about the common comedians we love as well as some new inspirations.

Spoke with Nun (March 8)

Spoke with Nun about her thesis work in person earlier this week. It happened in person, which was really refreshing.

We talked about how the thesis came together naturally through many smaller projects during Nun’s time at ITP.  The question of how we define something, including time itself, is truly fascinating.  We also talk about art practices and how a lot of Nun is about the ability to reading between the lines, not needing to give an absolutely clear answer. I also asked about the format of the thesis presentation, and Nun agreed the 10 minutes presentation was treated like a performance itself.

A lot of the conversation later on also talked about the ownership of new media art and how much of the tech/ skill aspect of one project you need to finish on your own in order to claim it confidently as your own work. This is my question as I feel I’m short on practical skills and wondering how much outsourcing is considered appropriate in the interactive media arts field.  Obviously, it is on a case by case and depends on the question the certain artwork is trying to ask. I have this sense of insecurity, especially after the Radical Network course in Berlin and the work “I produced,” which heavily relied on technical help from the instructors. There’s no way to recreate it myself, and I don’t feel confident calling it my work.

Last, we also talk about the institution we are in, which is (always) my favorite topic. We talked about what ITP was like, and how Nun became the Low Res resident, etc. Overall, a really enjoyable conversation.