Re: JOB: Technology manager/software developer for multimedia artist studio

On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Sandra D=E1vila <sandraxi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting discussion… thanks patrick for the resources they seem r=
eally
> interesting.
>
> What worries me more and I don't know about other people what happ=
ens with
> international people after itp… does people go back to their country=
?
>
> I have being discerning about this.. should I come back to Mexico?… =
Is
> difficult when you invest a lot of money and your country is not able =
to
> offer you opportunities regarding your studies, anyway just some thoug=
hts.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:46 AM, mike clemow <gelfmuse@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It ought to be said that, if you were looking to make huge $$$, yo=
u're
>> kind of in the wrong place too.  I'm certainly taking a m=
ajor salary
>> cut in addition to accruing  thousands in debt by coming here=
.  My
>> hope is that it's worth it to have a job that makes me happy.
>>
>> My humble $0.02.
>>
>> -mc
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Patrick Grizzard <roygbiv@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > This is a job managing the studio for a single artist who mak=
es work for
>> > galleries, museums and private collectors, so I don't thi=
nk its really
>> > representative of the job market as a whole. Presumably this =
job would
>> > appeal to someone who is looking for the opportunity to work =
for a name
>> > artist and get experience working on large-scale projects, ma=
ke
>> > connections
>> > in the art world, and, by doing so, improve their own opportu=
nities for
>> > showing work, being represented, getting exposure, etc., etc.=
IOW, this
>> > job
>> > is REALLY not about the money. If that's more of a priori=
ty, then I
>> > think,
>> > in general, you're going to be looking at jobs with inter=
active agencies
>> > and
>> > studios, tech start-ups, or perhaps an in-house design/techno=
logy
>> > division
>> > of a larger media/web/tech company.
>> >
>> > This is not to say that there aren't people out there try=
ing to find an
>> > interaction designer with great graphic design and programmin=
g skills,
>> > experience editing feature-length films and creating broadcas=
t-qulity
>> > motion
>> > graphics, basic robotics knowledge, strong bookeeping skills,=
and a
>> > portable
>> > espresso maker for $12/hour. I think people who are looking f=
or this are
>> > generally clueless and/or desparate and, as Tymm mentioned, t=
hey assume
>> > that
>> > a recent grad is more likely to take what they can get, so IT=
P gets
>> > targeted
>> > disproportionately with these types of jobs.
>> >
>> > Check out some job posting sites to get a better sense of wha=
t the
>> > market is
>> > actually like. I haven't been looking recently, but these=
used to be
>> > some of
>> > my go-to resources. Also, where else do people look for job p=
ostings (FT
>> > or
>> > freelance gigs)?
>> >
>> > http://www.coroflot.com/public/jobs_browse.asp
>> > http=
://jobs.37signals.com/
>> > http://jobs.boxesandarrows.com/jobs
>> > http://www.ixda.org/topics.php?topic=3Djobs
>> >
>> > Also, some recruiters post open job descriptions on their sit=
es:
>> > http://w=
ww.aquent.com/
>> > http://www.=
cgr.com/
>> >
>> > I also have a number of recruiters I've worked with in th=
e past who send
>> > out
>> > weekly or monthly emails with open jobs. A lot of these same =
ones go to
>> > the
>> > IxDA listserv, if your subscribed to that. Same with nyc-chi.=

>> >
>> > :P
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 3:11 AM, petra farinha
>> > <petra.prin=
tscreen@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> it~s funny that midori sends emails so early…when we ar=
e still here!
>> >>
>> >> but yes…welcome to the job posts!!
>> >> and there are others that ask for people that do everythi=
ng: designer,
>> >> coding for everything u can imagine, architect, product d=
esigner,
>> >> coffee
>> >> maker, secretary for less money!
>> >>
>> >> sweet dreams!
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Tymm Twillman <tmt271@nyu.edu> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> A lot of the postings to the list are pretty bad like=
that, but I
>> >>> suspect the folks who want to pay crappily tend to se=
nd out more
>> >>> requests.
>> >>>
>> >>> But yeah, that's an awful salary for this kind of=
position.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Dec 31, 2008, at 2:59 AM, Robert Carlsen wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > I really hope this isn't representative of t=
he job market….that
>> >>> > was
>> >>> > my starting salary as a multimedia developer fre=
sh out of undergrad,
>> >>> > with a graphic design degree and no practical pr=
ogramming
>> >>> > experience….in 2000.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > so, if that's what i have to look forward to=
after 10 years of
>> >>> > experience and an $80,000+ investment in further=
education,
>> >>> > then….ouch.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Job title =96 Technology manager/software de=
veloper for multimedia
>> >>> >> artist studio
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Ideal candidate has several years experience=
or a grad degree.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> …Starting salary is $38,000, plus benefits=
after 90 days for full
>> >>> >> time. Part
>> >>> >> time considered for the right candidate; sal=
ary negotiable.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > —
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>> >>>
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>> >>
>> >>
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