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Re: JOB: Teaching Position in Interactive Entertainment, CUNY

Well whatever the case, CUNY will defini=
tely hire someone with an M.P.S. for this position. Ask me offline if you wa=
nt the rest of the scoop.

On Jan 12, 2009, =
at 5:12 PM, Sandra Villarreal wrote:

Rob is kin=
d of right too, but the answer may not be as simple.

From the New York State Education Department’s=
Office of College and University Evaluation, Chapter I of Title 8 of t=
he Official Compilation of Codes, sections 3.47 and 3.50.

Highlights: 3.47, Sec. D, SubSec 2 lists the MPS a=
nd MFA BOTH under “professional  degrees” which it indicates are d=
esigned as “primarily terminal in nature”. This is key language. It mea=
ns the state recognizes that the degrees may be terminal. They may not.=
The state does not involve itself in this distinction, which is determ=
ined at local levels (schools and professional/academic/accreditation&n=
3.50, Sec. A “General Degrees in=
course” lists the AA/AS, BA/BS, MA/MS, M. Phil. and Ph. D. as well as =
the Professional Degrees (BPS, B Tech., MPS, DPS, and DA). Sec. B. “Spe=
cialized Degrees in course” lists the multitudes of very specific degre=
es, including the MFA.
According to the State of Ne=
w York, this subsection defines what would be the only difference betwe=
en the two.
The point that CUNY is recognizing one =
as terminal rather than the other, in this case, is not simply a matter=
of bureaucratic bookkeeping; rather, someone made this decision. Perha=
ps the reasoning may be inferred somewhere in this distinction. That is=
, however, supposition. Since there is no federally recognized base sta=
ndard on the question of terminal degrees, states, and associations, an=
d schools, are left on their own to decide. The  state standard in=
this case, clearly, does not help.
The ITP w=
ebsite describes the program as “the first graduate program in alternative m=
edia”. It also reads: “The curriculum is devoted to teaching the practice an=
d theory that emerge from the convergence of new media technologies.” M.F.A.=
programs in New Media, Interactive Media and Design and Technology already =
exist. Their curricula includes theory and practice and a minimum of a two-s=
emester thesis paper and project. They are not intensive programs.&nbsp=
Despite the fact that ITP is not an art, design o=
r engineering program, graduates from the program often look for jobs in the=
field of art and design and hold positions as creative directors, art direc=
tors, designers, interactive designers, producers researchers and visiting i=
nstructors or adjunct professors in art or design schools. In thes=
e fields the M.F.A. (specialized degree) is consider the terminal degre=
On Jan 11, 200=
9, at 6:10 PM, Rob Faludi [list] wrote:

Sandra is kind of right, yet IT=
P is not an art school or a design school or an engineering school. For bett=
er or worse it has a deal all its own, hence the MPS, which is indeed consid=
ered terminal. The State of New York accredits it as such, but for some reas=
on CUNY, which is run by the State of New York does not have the bureaucrati=
c machinery to recognize it so they need to apply for exceptions.
I’m sure som=
eone can come up with a more authoritative reference source than Wikipedia. =
Maybe someone with an MLS?

On Jan 11, 2009, at 5:19 PM, Sandra Villarreal wr=


The department will have to make the case for the candidate in question=
because an MPS is not considered a terminal degree, as Rob points out (at C=
UNY, in NY and in the US).

A terminal degree is the highe=
st degree earnable in a given field of study. Usually is a Ph=
D. The only exceptions exist in the fields of applied arts such as=
creative writing, graphic design, fine arts, video art and interactive desi=
gn, where an MFA is the terminal degree. 
For =
example, an MFA right now is the terminal degree for game design and game ar=
t because there is no PhD in game design. A PhD is the terminal degree =
for game development (programming as opposed to design). MPS is not a termin=
al degree in the fields of art, design, media, journalism and education beca=
use there are MFA, Ed.D and PhD in these fields.
rminal Master programs are often designated by specific descriptive titles s=
uch as Master of Education (M.Ed), Master of Fine Arts (M.F.A) or Master of =
Architecture (M.Arch). Typically a terminal Master takes more time than a no=
n-terminal Master to complete (1-2 vs. 2-3 years) Some academic art institut=
ions even use the MA (Master of Art) degree (30 credits) as a prerequisite f=
or final acceptance into MFA candidacy. An MFA also requires the comple=
tion of certain amount of credits in art history and philosophy.

MFA is usually a requirement to teach art and design=
at the rank of assistant professor. I don’t know about other fields.&n=
On Jan 11, 2009, at 12:10 PM, R=
ob Faludi [list] wrote:
CUNY officially categorizes the MPS as a n=
on-terminal degree, so it has to go through an exceptions process. This is t=
heir own pain, not yours.

On Jan 8, 20=
09, at 7:29 PM, Caleb wrote:

Midori. Hope you and family are well. This caug=
ht my eye from the below email “If we can make a strong case for a
andidate, they are willing to consider the MPS as a terminal degree”since I’m looking for academic teaching jobs. I thought an MPS WAS termina=
l? Especially in NYC? and on par with an MFA??? Any new thoughts about this =
as one who has to defend an MPS as terminal out of state???

I am going for teaching in Art, Communications, Media, Journalism, =
and Education depts. mostly. 

On Jan 6, 2009, at =
11:02 AM, Midori Yasuda wrote:
The New York City College of Tech=
nology, Department of EntertainmentTechnology, invites applications for a =
tenure-track, full time
position in Interactive Entertainment at the ra=
nk of Assistant
Professor, beginning in September 2009.  Even thou=
gh there are some
hurdles to overcome within CUNY (regarding the termin=
al degree),
please do share the attached announcement with alumni, coll=
eagues, and
friends who may be interested. If we can make a strong case=
for a
candidate, they are willing to consider the MPS as a terminal de=

Additional details, including application instructions, may=
be found at:


Jenna Spevack
Chair, =
Interactive Entertainment Search CommitteeNew York=
City College of Technology

300 J=
ay Street V411
Brooklyn, NY 11201


Title: Assistant Professor – Interactive Entertainment
tment: Entertainment Technology
Compensation: Commensurate with education=
and experience.
Closing Date: Open until filled with review of resumes t=
o begin 11/24/08

The New=
York City College of Technology, Department of Entertainment Technology,invites applications for a tenure-track, full time position in Interactive =
Entertainment at the
rank of assistant professor, beginning in September =
The department offers undergraduate instruction in a variety of dis=
ciplines, including
lighting, sound, show control, and video systems. New=
programs in development include
emerging media technology, music technol=
ogy, interactive control, and video production.
The successful candidate =
will teach courses in several areas including, but not limited to
tive Media, Entertainment Control Systems, Electricity, Tangible Computing, =
Introduction to Entertainment Technology. The Assistant Professor wil=
l also be expected to
develop, plan, and prepare curricula related to a p=
rogram track in integrated and
interactive entertainment technologies.
Qualifications for the rank of assistant =
professor include a terminal degree in a field related
to interactive med=
ia systems, and significant experience in both design and technical
mentations. Media related software engineering experience and excellent
ommunications skills are essential. Candidates should provide evidence of cr=
professional, and scholarly activity with adequate documentation =
of productions,
publications, research, and curriculum materials.

Send cover letter of introduction and resume.
Email: isr@city=
Subject Line: Interactive Entertainment
Contact: Ms. M. =
Harris, Director, ISR

The City University of New York
An Equal Emp=
loyment Opportunity/Affirmative Action/Immigration Reform and Control Act/Americans with Disabilities Act Employer


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